Tony Cummings spoke to GUVNA B about a new album, modern worship and crime culture

Guvna B: I think they are listening but sometimes they're so far removed from our reality that they're ignorant to it, they're sitting very comfortably and that's not something that we can change, all we can do is pray that their hearts are moved to be empathetic for people who aren't from their backgrounds.

Tony: Tell me about a couple of songs on the album.

Guvna B: "Cast Your Cares" is a favourite from the album written with Matt Redman and Nick Herbert, they're worship songs that are getting picked up in a few churches which is great. "King Of My Heart" which is one of my favourite worship songs that John Mark McMillan very kindly let me do a version of. There's a song called "Broken" that features Ellie Lambert, she's Martin Smith's daughter, she was randomly in the studio one day and she has a great vocal.

Tony: That's intriguing that you're bringing up worship because of course there's been gospel rap/hip-hop for a long time now but you seem to be one of the guys bringing that into the modern worship arena.

Guvna B: Definitely, and I think a lot of people struggle to receive my kind of music as traditional worship. They see rap as something for the young people to jump up and down to. I believe it's just as powerful as [sung] worship. We have to create relevant ways to reach all kinds of people. Worship isn't just a genre, it's a lifestyle, and I think we've got to move with the times. That's why I try and bring well known worship songs into my work because I think it bridges the gaps and breaks down barriers.