Tony Cummings went to Bridgnorth Baptist to meet up with three worshipping veterans THE HUDSON TAYLORS

Noel: We had an interesting discussion this morning over breakfast about songwriting and artistry and stuff like that. We started talking off about Michelangelo, when he looked at a block of marble, he could see the sculpture that was locked inside it, it was in their already, but it needed somebody like Michelangelo to see what was inside that block of marble and unlock it for the world to see. It's almost like, people talk about songs in the same way and we were just saying that it's the genius that visits us, we can see the melody in Heaven, and we tune in to what God is presenting before us, we've got to see it. The onus is not on us to be brilliant songwriters, the onus is on us to be good at hearing, good at seeing. Some are taking what is passing by from Heaven, and just unlocking it.

Tony: That is more or less what Emily Brontë said in one of her letters when she was talking about how, in Victorian times, they thought a lot about what they called the creative muse. She effectively said that finally it's about hearing, and she didn't use the word God, but it sounded pretty close.

Brian: There is a song we were listening to in the van on the way down, the lyric is "I am nothing, but the angels sometimes whisper in my ear and it's all I can do to hear'. Steve Earle has been quoted as saying this - that the melody and the song is already written and we get to reach up into and pull it from that "third heaven". It's how well we can interpret it. Frequently, you will have people writing a song that has an eternal quality and they say it has a subject matter, and somewhere in the world there are several other people also writing a song like that, a song that says that. The guys have written and we have started to finish it together, the song "All The Saints" and I'm writing it with them. I'm aware that I've already written another song that talks about almost exactly the same idea, and I think that happens sometimes. The whisper of God is blowing across the vast expanse of the universe, and we get, as artists, that whisper coming to us. And we get to crystallise it into human form. Beth [Redman], when she is writing, will just write the vowel sounds, without knowing the words, just mouthing vowels. Later she comes back and starts trying to decipher whatever it was being communicated, and she is revered around the world as one of the great spiritual songwriters. Noel had a dream that he met me somewhere and I was sat singing a song. He woke up and he remembered the melody and wrote the song. It's called "This Is The Day". So my dream lawyers are after him!

Noel: Brian said something. I wrote a song with Ken Riley, back in 2001 called "Dreamers Of Your Dreams". So I'm thinking destiny and God's got a plan for your life, and Brian was just saying, "Well, you know, we are in our sleep, we are dreaming the dreams God gives us and what does God give us."