Frontman for rock veterans The Violet Burning, Michael J Pritzl was quizzed by Mike Rimmer.
After recording four albums in the '90s, it seems like you've been having a recent spurt of creativity with 'Demonstrates Plastic And Elastic', 'I Am A Stranger In This Place' and now 'Faith & Devotions Of A Satellite Heart'. What's been happening? Actually it has been a great privilege to finally have some new releases coming out. We have been through some difficult seasons with the past record labels that were releasing our recordings. With the Vineyard Music Group initially, and then the distributor for Strength went out of business, and our third recording (self-titled) on Domo Records was a disaster because the label did not want to market to our core fan base within the Christian music market. It was such a wonderful, beautiful, spiritual and melancholy recording, and such a shame to see it not properly marketed. So, we started our own recording company (Ruby Electric Recording Company), to release projects by The Violet Burning.
For the 'Stranger' album, it must have been an interesting process
taking what was already recorded and remaking those songs. What were
the joys and heartaches of the process?
Yes, it was an
interesting process, and a challenging one. I am very pleased with the
result. Every year we do a couple of live performances doing the songs
with these types of arrangements. And since the fans have loved the
live performances, we thought it would be fun to make a CD of it for
our fans. Many bands cannot rise to the challenge of stripping their
songs down to more stark, quieter arrangements. Some bands get by more
on production gimmicks than they do by real songs. Our challenge was
to take our favourite songs of faith, devotion and worship from our
previous four recordings ('Chosen1, 'Strength', The Violet Burning' and 'Demonstrates
Plastic And Elastic') and record them with new, quieter, reflective
arrangements and do it all live, in one day with no overdubs. There
are some great moments on "I Am A Stranger In This Place", and there
are some not so good ones, but that is the charm of not fixing things
like you would on a regular recording. Over all, I am very pleased
with it.
How do you feel you and the band have developed since the early
Vineyard days? How has the vision for what you're doing changed or
been honed?
Well for one, I think we have actually become a much
better band. We have grown and learned through some wonderful
blessings and some difficult trials. Musically though, I do not know a
time when the band has been as good as it is right now. Especially
live. I can only say that I am humbled that God has put such great
musicians around me. Andrew Prickett, Herb Grimaud Jr, Daniel Coalman
Ponce and Melissa Barnett are really excellent players, who really
want the songs to be as good as they can be. As for the vision being
honed or changing, I don't think that it ever has really changed. We
have always desired to make music that would touch God's heart, and
that would also touch the hearts and lives of the men and women who
listen to it and participate in it. My conviction as a songwriter has
been to write about the experiences God brings me through, and the
experiences of those people around me, I have learned a lot from
theologians like Francis Schaeffer, (Art And The Bible) and Francis
Schaeffer Jr (Addicted To Mediocrity), and I strive to write about the
fullness of life's experiences, including faith, worship of God, love
and loss, hope and joy, laughter and sorrow.
As for our early
days, we started out playing mostly in nightclubs, figuring that we
never wanted to be a "youth group" entertainment type of band. Our
music was deeper, for those seeking and for those questioning, and for
the weak and the broken, and so we went to the clubs. We initially
went to record a demo tape at the Vineyard studios, which is where our
bass player attended church. The sessions went well and the Vineyard
wanted to release those recordings to the public through their
distribution channels. We had never really attended that particular
denomination for church.
We learned a lot of great things from
being involved with the Vineyard. I think that God uses all of us and
the Vineyard is a controversial movement, but God uses the weak. I am
definitely one of the weak. We had the great privilege of ministering
to many within the church, our pastors really supported us being
musicians and artists and many of them came to the clubs and
universities to show their support. Initially the Vineyard Music Group
seemed to embrace our vision, but we had to part ways when the pastors
who were originally with us moved on to Tom Stipe's Crossroads Church
of Denver. It was at that point where the band went through a
tremendous growth and sorrow. Some of the new pastors that came around
us at the time really wanted the band to become something for them,
rather than what God had for us. It is very difficult for people in
music ministry who are doing their best to follow their leaders, when
their leaders are constantly changing directions of their church.
Then, you as musicians are expected to abandon what God has called you
to, for the sake of their church or movement. For me, I have not been
able to be that way. I have made many bad choices along the way and
some good ones too. It began to seem like things were more political
than vision-based and it became hurtful to us.
I can remember
talking with John Wimber, explaining to him why we would be leaving
the Vineyard Music Group to join Bluestone and Tom Stipe's record
label. John was very gracious to us, and told me, "Well, Michael, your
vision has not changed since you came here, why would you want to
leave?" I explained to him that the Vineyard Music Group's vision had
changed, and no longer lined up with ours. He agreed and we parted on
seemingly good terms, until we caught wind of a letter that had been
sent out to all Vineyard Churches claiming that the Vineyard had
parted ways with us because we were "drunkards", among other things. I
cannot tell you the amount of hurt that was put on our hearts from
someone at their church doing that. It can be devastating to
individuals when rumors are spread on that kind of level. For us at
the time it was tremendously hurtful, to have people that you loved,
trusted and respected turn on you. There are still some people today
who treat us poorly, because of rumors or stories. I believe it is
important for all of us as Christians to let love cover a multitude of
sins. Since that time many Vineyard pastors and leaders have
apologised to us, and shown great grace and mercy towards us.
Ultimately, Jesus has stood by us through the good and the bad, and
brought a tremendous amount of healing and restoration to us. At the
end, sometimes it seems that I have been given a fish. And to some
people it is a smelly, stinky, sort of slimy fish. But, it is a fish
nonetheless. And all I can do with my fish is offer it to God. And if
he would use my fish to feed even one person or 5,000 people, then I
am grateful. For each of us it is like this, we each have a gift. A
piece of bread, a fish, a gift of giving, a gift of music, a gift of
fatherhood, or of being a faithful friend. God can use each of us,
despite our weakness. All of the great men and women of the Bible I
believe are men and women who were used not because of how "good" they
were, but rather because they were weak and sinful and needed God's
grace and mercy for anything useful to come of their lives. I look at
the seasons of my life the same way, and I am sure that my brothers
and sisters in any denomination also do the same.
How do you feel about recent developments in worship music because it
seems like you were making vibey atmospheric "real" worship music
before it was trendy?
Well, I thank you for the compliment. We
have always tried to make music that is "real". I really have hoped
that artists would grow within worship music. I still feel that there
is a long way to go. There are a few that are really gifted and those
are the ones who are not relying on gimmicks. I have enjoyed watching
Delirious? grow as artists and worshipers. I enjoy Kate Miner's music.
I also am really touched by some of Matt Redman's songs.
I do
hope to see the Church grow musically and artistically. The only
danger is when people are doing things that are contrived. I heard one
record where they are doing one song country, and the next doing (in
their own words) a "nine-inch nails" style worship song. The danger is
that they are trying to be something they are not. But it is a
tendency that many artists fall into. It is important to do what is in
you, and not say, "Oh, I want to write a punk song," or "Let's do a
new wave song!" or "I really like the Spice Girls, so let's do a Spice
Girls-style worship CD." The problem in our day and age is that the
Christian musicians and artists have become followers. Our goal needs
to be to worship Jesus in the art forms or musical styles that flow
naturally out of us. Then, hopefully we could be innovators and
leaders and not followers. I too struggle with this issue and am
trying to grow as an artist, a musician and as a lyricist.
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I enjoyed reading the article and can say that Michael is as real in an interview as in person- Grace flowing